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Name: ran and shai
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Topic: Melee & Bleedthrough ?   Go to last post
Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:10:37 AM(UTC)
The Little Moa;933043 wrote:
Bleedthrough like Halo 3, never had any problems with it, it was broken in Reach as it just doesn't work with visible health & single shot weapons.

 
Topic: armor of halo 4   Go to last post
Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:08:34 AM(UTC)
KSI Shukaku;935735 wrote:
i think 343i should add more armor then halo reach and halo 3 combine to halo 4 even though nobody knows how much armor is going to be in halo 4.

Why, Reach had plenty armor, all it does is take a lot of disc space. If anything, there should be LESS armor...
 
Topic: Three Skull Ideas   Go to last post
Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:55:45 AM(UTC)
Skulls aren't abilities, nor do they occupy a separate button. This wont work.
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:00:18 AM(UTC)
deluca34;933884 wrote:
DarkBladeX98;933816 wrote:
ran and shai;933813 wrote:
deluca34;933755 wrote:
why does this change even matter or have merit to be upset about? If 343i changes everything its their right to do so, you or I dont own the rights to halo. Besides, the game trumps canon, always has, always will.

I take it, since you seem not to be a core canon fan, that you are a fan of Halo gameplay. To us (or some of us at least), the story is just as if not more important than the gameplay. A change like this to us, is like 343i adding "perks" into the game. It's not that we don'tr like change or that we don't like the Grunt's new look (I actually love it) , in a similar way to how you could play Halo 4 with perks and custom loadouts and ordanance drops and still enjoy it, but is it really needed? And is it worth upsetting the balance that Halo used to be all about? The same applies to canon (for us canon fans). The change is not bad, nor will it hurt how we enjoy the game but we have been following the series for a long time and we classified Grunts in a way that just didn't seem to fit the new look that 343i gave them. This is calm protest, and if 343 would not have taken it seriously, than we would just let it go. But they did take it seriously, and they have a certain explanation which they are not ready to reveal (probably because they only just started to work on it, lol) and that's awesome in my opinion.


To the deluca guy, without canon we don't have a game. Without legitimate fictional backing the game comes off as corny and shallow, much like your typical xboxlive arcade game.
Did you by any chance read Fall of Reach before playing Halo:Reach?
I think its cool that 343 has a legitimate reason, and I couldn't vote in the poll because there was no option for "I'm ok if it is justified."
The only poll options that were ok with the change were made to look ignorant.


The game came first, books were written around the game. We would have a game without the books.

Actually, the fall of Reach came out around 9 years before the game, and for 9 years, us canon fans looked at Reach's fate one way, only for it all to be thrown away when the game came out. Yes, games reinforce the books but that doesn't mean the books should be so mistreated. If this was the case, then there would have been no reason to buy and read the books and no reason to delve deep into the story of the universe because they would just change it when it becomes problematic. That is not a good argument.

Damn, why am I getting into this argument again?
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:48:40 AM(UTC)
Augmented Fire;933862 wrote:
It's not a big deal. Stop looking for things to criticize 343i on. That's all you people want to do. It's truly unbelievable.

I explained as best as I could why this is exactly NOT one of those threads a few replies above, if you truly care than you can read it. Honestly, this was my first formal complaint.
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:46:01 AM(UTC)
thy ReaperMC;933842 wrote:
Is the Weekly Bulletin a good start for explaining the Grunts?

Yes. The fact that there is an explanation and that 343i didn't just avoid an uncomfortable topic means our objective is complete, at least to me.
 
Topic: Why Are People Losing Faith In 343i + Halo 4?   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:44:12 AM(UTC)
Simply put, because it's way too different from what they expected.

After the Reach title update, the community expected 343i to be our b***, but out of the blue they began announcing questionable features (some of which go against what Halo once was). I truly understand their panic, and I am also a little bit disappointed that even starts are no longer a thing, but I trust 343i to make a near perfect Halo game and to retain the Halo feel that me and many others didn't get from Reach (with the exception of LNoS, IMO). Aside from that (like you said) the story and campaign sound very promising, the graphics are mind-blowing-ly amazing and the moment to moment gameplay seems spot on. People need to give 343i the faith they deserve. Yes, multiplayer seems to be heading in a mainstream direction, but it's still going to be fun, still going to be awesome and still going to be HALO (at least more so than Reach) and aside from that, all these features are configurable in custom games, which means that if people hate them as much as they do now, 343i would probably create numerous playlists with more classic variants in their monthly playlist updates. It may not be the Halo 4 you wanted right away, but there is a great chance it will be a few months after release. Because aside from some questionable topics, the game looks perfect.
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:19:25 AM(UTC)
deluca34;933755 wrote:
why does this change even matter or have merit to be upset about? If 343i changes everything its their right to do so, you or I dont own the rights to halo. Besides, the game trumps canon, always has, always will.

I take it, since you seem not to be a core canon fan, that you are a fan of Halo gameplay. To us (or some of us at least), the story is just as if not more important than the gameplay. A change like this to us, is like 343i adding "perks" into the game. It's not that we don'tr like change or that we don't like the Grunt's new look (I actually love it) , in a similar way to how you could play Halo 4 with perks and custom loadouts and ordanance drops and still enjoy it, but is it really needed? And is it worth upsetting the balance that Halo used to be all about? The same applies to canon (for us canon fans). The change is not bad, nor will it hurt how we enjoy the game but we have been following the series for a long time and we classified Grunts in a way that just didn't seem to fit the new look that 343i gave them. This is calm protest, and if 343 would not have taken it seriously, than we would just let it go. But they did take it seriously, and they have a certain explanation which they are not ready to reveal (probably because they only just started to work on it, lol) and that's awesome in my opinion.
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:03:30 AM(UTC)
GalaxySpider;933427 wrote:
Quote:
No dummy, the bulletin was made for the OP and his supporters. It didn't "pwn" anything.


of course it "pwnd" the OP, not the person itself, but the actual topic. It may sound rude, but Bungie did the same with Reach and Halo 3 as well (only on other aspects of the game, not the grunts). Because some people do not seem to realize that games are just games, and the creators can change it on every aspect they want, regardless if it breaks the omg-the-grunt-is-not-canon canon.


The designers wanted a new artstyle, a more dangerous and ugly looking grunt because they were tired of that outdated thing from Halo CE (up to Reach). And they achieved that goal. And I'm glad 343i kept it that way.

The bulletin says: "No, we're not going to change the look, just because you don't like it. And here is why."

It looks like a grunt, it will run like a grunt, and it will probably fight like a grunt.


the bulletin says:

[quote]Only that poor Carl Linnaeus can’t adequately classify sentient organisms originating from other planets and we shouldn’t necessarily expect him to. Until we develop perfect xenobiological classifications for rival and ultimately, very alien sentient species, humans of the 26th century, in the middle of trying to survive the Covenant War, might use ad hoc, makeshift terminology loosely based on the Earth’s own organisms—and that’s exactly what ‘arthropod’ is when it appears in the definition of the Unggoy.


That's exactly what a lot of people here said. That HUMANS absolutely can't know anything about the evolution of alien DNA, biology etc.

But yeah, of course. OP and lot of the supporters calling people with different opinions "ignorant" or "you dont know nothing about science". Yeah of course, because YOU do know about alien science. How ironic.
"We know better, and you know Yoink!", that was the whole point of this thread here before the bulletin.


I'm glad 343i finally brought light to the whole story and supporting the "you cant know how aliens work" side. Thx god. And it looks like they will explain it even more later (or via the game).
The canon guys should be thankful for that bulletin and I'm sure they can expect more "canon" fodder.[/quote]
First of all, the fact that they CAN change it doesn't mean they SHOULD, and surely a menacing new look could have been achieved for the Grunt without changing it's biological make up. Second of all, while I did not partake in calling people ignorant, the only times I saw people do so where to fight off comments like "who cares about story" and "you are afraid of change" which completely miss the point of this thread.

As a supporter of the canon, I am very happy that 343i have addressed the problem and that they either have the look fit canon or are trying to make it so. I did not support this thread to demand change, but to plea for consistency in canon and as long as they keep it, no matter what explanations they may come up with (good, bad or horrible) I would accept it.

It's sad that you think 343i wrote that bulletin to "pwn" supporters of this thread. Truly sad...
 
Topic: New Unggoy breaks canon(343 responded update)   Go to last post
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:45:58 AM(UTC)
Ominous Spider;932942 wrote:
*snickers* OP got pwned by a bulliten.

No dummy, the bulletin was made for the OP and his supporters. It didn't "pwn" anything.
*rolls eyes*

OT: While this was not a straight answer, not only is this better than nothing, but it's actually good to hear that they either have an explanation or are working on one. Thank you 343i, you could have avoided it but you didn't :)

BTW it took a lot of courage not to lash at you, Spider. lol
 
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