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#1 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:11:51 PM(UTC)
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Sportnlife wrote:
DISCLAIMER: Not quite a full update, but TALLERPIT108 made an interesting find in regards to the number sequence.

You can access the entry screen from your computer here

EDIT 5:
So 343 caught onto our little game and locked the "wakeupjohn" Terminal, and I'm assuming all the future Terminals that we yet to unlock. There is still much to discuss, such as the meaning behind the number sequences at the beginning of each Terminal and other possible codes to unlock Terminals hidden throughout the Halo Universe.

This thread is about the potential of other hidden Terminals scattered throughout the Halo universe. I say the entire universe because the apposed to just Halo CEA because symbols can be hidden throughout various trailers, maps, levels, ect and these symbols can be used to unlock Terminals.

WHAT WE KNOW
This is the input device. The input device grants access to the Terminals when a correct code is entered. The input device allows codes to be 1 to 10 characters long. We know 10 codes which are each 5 characters long and were found at the end each one of the Terminals. Entering all of them successfully granted access to a secret 11th Terminal. This proves that there is a possibility of additional Terminals.


TRANSLATOR 1 2 3 4
(because so many people took the time to make translators, I thought I'd put them in the OP)
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Here are all the Terminal videos

Here are the Input characters at the end of each Terminal (the name is what the codes translate to)

Other input characters that work

Keep your eyes peeled during future trailers for more codes.

Thanks AkuMaYaRi to we have a font that uses the Forerunner Symbols. It can be downloaded here
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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:20:39 PM(UTC)
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SPECULATION

I haven't had any luck finding any Codes hidden throughout the levels or Trailers. I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled for future terminals


sixftwookie;378518 wrote:
I was thinking there may be a clue in the strings of numbers that precede each terminal. For reference, i'll include them here.

044657.04.21.21.34.56
000003.09.12.06.54
100002.09.19.21.33.01
044657.04.21.21.34.56
044657.04.23.01.17.22
044657.04.23.01.17.22
89875.11.11.15.41.13
051207.06.07.06.11.02
044657.04.21.21.34.56
100002.09.22.09.38.17
100002.09.22.28.63.55

I've included the 11th terminal's number sequence just in case it has relevance. The first inclination many have is that these are a time stamp, which is a reasonable first conclusion until you look deeper. First of all, several of the sequences are identical. The 1st, 4th and 9th are identical to each other, as are the 5th and 6th. Also, the 6th terminal gives us a specific date, 60,000 years after the firing of the Halo array, and it's first sequence of six digits, presumably the year if it were a time stamp, falls 15,000 years short.

Also note that two of the sequences have a non standard format. The second terminal, instead of having six digits followed by five strings of two numbers only has four strings of two, and the seventh terminal's first string is only five digits, not the standard six.

On a whim, I tried combining the 5th and 6th's runes together, forwards and backwards, into the input screen, with no results.

I can't say for sure that the numbers mean anything, but if 343 is following in Bungie's footsteps as closely as they would have us believe, there's no way these don't have meaning.


TallerPit108;456171 wrote:
I have been following this thread for some time and have been (to date) impressed with the results you all have produced. As such I'd like to present some of my findings in relation to the numeric sequences at the beginning of each terminal video, and see what the brain trust here on this forum might be able to come up with...

In noting that 8 of the 11 numeric sequences have a reoccurring prescript (3 of the 11 sets of numeric sequences are in fact identical - this is certainly important) but all are similar in format, we can safely assume that there most certainly is a message or at least a significance to them.


The rest of this post is conjecture (obviously)

I believed initially that this similar formatting is the key to deciphering this code... I then started to realize that not all codes have ciphers - some codes are made to hide secrets, some are simply an indexing system. What if there is no cipher at all? What if a reference key is all that’s missing? After all - we know the terminals are archived in an indexing system of sorts (ie. Waypoint)

Based upon this hunch, I began to research these numbers in relation to known types of indexing systems ... and i found something - call it a contextual similarity...

If the initial numbers (5 or 6 digits) in the sets represent an initiial point of reference to the numbers following them (similar to the dewy decimal system). Interestingly enough some of these reference numbers seem to correspond with a real-life genetic indexing system - called UniGene (Google "UniGene" and read to your heart’s content)

below is wiki's first paragraph in explaining what UniGene is:

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"UniGene is an NCBI database of the transcriptome and thus, despite the name, not primarily a database for genes. Each entry is a set of transcripts that appear to stem from the same transcription locus (i.e. gene or expressed pseudogene). Information on protein similarities, gene expression, cDNA clones, and genomic location is included with each entry."

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So Unigene appears to be some type of library for genetic and psuedogenetic transcripts (I'm no geneticist) - the indexing of which seems to be a sort of reference-based system in that when you enter a number it references specific identified genetic transcripts (I may be naive here, but that's what it appears to be to me)

Most interestingly - when you enter the prefix numbers from the terminals into the UniGene system you get results for specific types of species:

100002 = a retired sequence for homo sapiens (why retired I have no idea)
044657 and 052107 = sequences for nematodes (052107 is a retired cluster while 044657 is active)
89875 = sequences from the common fruit fly
000003 = sequence from the African malaria mosquito

...the interesting thing here is that all of these (except humanity - depends on your perspective) are all forms of parasitic organisms... sound familiar?

The Flood is also a type of parasitic organism...and what was the librarian busy doing prior to the firing of the halos?

I'm not quite convinced yet, but there seems to be too many coincidences in my findings for this to be purely random.

I'm not suggesting UniGene is any type of "secret decoder ring" for the terminals (in fact i don't think there is any cipher here at all), nor do I think it is directly part of any ARG (ie. UniGene does not = "I Love Bees") - but I'm pretty sure these numbers are the origins of some type of ARG for promoting the Halo 4 release next year, and I do think it has something to do with genetic indexing.

... I call dibbs on being the first in coming up with the genetic indexing link, btw!!

Happy hunting everyone!!
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#6 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:22:37 PM(UTC)
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TL;DR:

"There are 37 glyphs, which equals the amount of the alphabet, plus 10 more for the numbers 0-9, and then an extra one that could be a comma or period.

This leads me to believe that it is a language that can be deciphered. I will attempt to decipher it."
#7 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:27:28 PM(UTC)
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Hey OP, I'll share with you a very basic deciphering technique that you might already know:

Basically, we need to find out which character is used most often, because, assuming the grammar corresponds with ours, that letter will most likely equal "E".
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#8 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:29:18 PM(UTC)
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mr super sauce;377854 wrote:
Hey OP, I'll share with you a very basic deciphering technique that you might already know:

Basically, we need to find out which character is used most often, because, assuming the grammar corresponds with ours, that letter will most likely equal "E".

I figured this much. But I'm assuming there is a need for a place keeper as well, so the most used one could be a space also
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:37:28 PM(UTC)
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interesting... VERY interesting.

ill try to decipher it, ive done it before on other things, but, this looks a little harder. im not even sure its possible.
#11 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:38:37 PM(UTC)
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Ah sportnlife. Sup broski. I have noticed the glyphs being similar to human alphabet and a 0 - 9 number scale. i have tried to decipher the number portion myself. I have also noticed that there is a glyph similar to A as well as one similar to M and Z. I'm not sure though. We need to get some people to start a collab so we can fully try and understand this. Hopefully we are not just over hyping our selves here.
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:51:59 PM(UTC)
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Sportnlife;377858 wrote:
mr super sauce;377854 wrote:
Hey OP, I'll share with you a very basic deciphering technique that you might already know:

Basically, we need to find out which character is used most often, because, assuming the grammar corresponds with ours, that letter will most likely equal "E".

I figured this much. But I'm assuming there is a need for a place keeper as well, so the most used one could be a space also


With 10 five-letter codes the most common occurring symbol is most likely not the place holder (since that would mean a lot of 1 letter and 2 letter words).
#12 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:01:11 PM(UTC)
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in halo wars there are the same glyphs used. the doctor and the prophet in that game touch some of them on a pedistal just like the one presented in waypoint. i've been tring to get a high quality picture so i can see the ones that dr. anderson touches to activate the shield worlds ships. does anyone have a way to get those???
#13 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:12:16 PM(UTC)
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The most likely character for a placeholder would be this one. It is used 6 times throughout the 10 codes, makes the longest word 13 letters, and doesn't ever repeat itself if the code is put together chronologically from the Pillar of Autumn to the Maw.

The pattern it ends up making looks something like this
?????? ????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ???? ?? ???

I'll update the OP with the information presented thus far.
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:28:44 PM(UTC)
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All the inputs are are five characters! The inputs that are read in halo wars on the pedistal from Dr. Anderson were all five charaters! I've found the glyphs that she put in to open the shield worlds dormant ships. Unfortunately the pictures i have are blurry as vaseline covered gogles.
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:09:19 PM(UTC)
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Okaaay. Please bear with me and try to see it makes some sense, although I doubt it myself. So I took the concept of the letters used mostly (I may have used a wrong model which explains why it messed up.)

The left over 16, I didn't worry about at all. First let me put up the letters I used

E, T, A, O, I, N, S, R, H, L, D, C, U, M, F, P, G, W, Y, B, V.

Now the symbol that is used the most times
(6 times,6 ) I put together with the most used letter E. and if you follow down the list Sportnlife made I put the next as T. Then on the next one three symbols were used 3 times so I put them as A,O, and I since there is a chance any of the 3 could be any of the 3 letters. (and so on, blablabla..)

Basically this:
Never Used- 16 (didn't match)
Used once - 8 (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)
Used twice - 6 (R,H,L,D,C,U)
Use three times - 2 (N,S)
Used four times - 3 (A,O,I)
Used five times - 1 (T)
Used six times - 1 (E)

Then I looked at the symbols you had to put in for the terminals to unlock, I mean.. it would only back it up more if the five symbols actually made a word or a sentence altogether.

So after matching up 5 of the 10 (11?)terminals' symbols with letters I got this.

I can't show the symbols but this is the different ways the five symbols and the letters it could represent could be matched.

First terminal symbols: [044657.04.21.21.34.56]
1- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
2- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
3- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
4- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
5- (N,S)-

Second terminal symbols: [000003.09.12.06.54]
1- (A,O,I)-
2- (E, Which I am suspecting might be a spacebar type as others mentioned.)-
3- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
4- (A,O,I)-
5- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-

Third terminal symbols: [100002.09.19.21.33.01]
1- (N,S)-
2- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-
3- (E)-
4- (T)-
5- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-

Fourth terminal symbols: [044657.04.21.21.34.56]
1- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-F
2- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-L
3- (A,O,I)-O
4- (A,O,I)-O
5- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-D

Fifth terminal symbols: [044657.04.23.01.17.22]
1- (N,S)-
2- (E)-
3- (T)-
4- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-
5- (A,O,I)-

Sixth terminal symbols: [044657.04.23.01.17.22]
1- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
2- (N,S)-
3- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
4- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
5- (A,O,I)-

Seventh terminal symbols: [89875.11.11.15.41.13]
1- (T)-
2- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-
3- (A,O,I)-
4- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
5- (N,S)-

Eighth terminal symbols: [051207.06.07.06.11.02]
1- (E)-
2- (T)-
3- (T)-
4- (E)-
5- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-

Ninth terminal symbols: [044657.04.21.21.34.56]
1- (A,O,I)-
2- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-
3- (R,H,L,D,C,U)-
4- (E)-
5- (A,O,I)-

Tenth terminal symbols: [100002.09.22.09.38.17]
1- (A,O,I)-
2- (E)-
3- (M,F,P,G,W,Y,B,V)-
4- (N,S)-
5- (A,O,I)-


I didn't do the rest. As you can see, it doesn't make much sense...
So, then I tried to see if it could make a combination relating to Halo or any word at all, which I didn't get far with but the fourth one. It can combine to make the word FLOOD, which is very interesting, except the terminal didn't mention the flood in it and I have a hard time figuring the rest. Which led me to think they either used another statistical source or didn't do it like this at all and it was a coincidence.

But then I saw another post where he stated the one symbol I matched with E only could be the spacebar thingy?? and then I got even more lost. Anyhow, that's all so far.

By the way, I also put in the numbers and alphabet in the original input device, but it didn't make all that sense with only 26 letters and 10 numbers.
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If the FLOOD one was the right combination I would be able to detemine exactly the letter of those symbols, although it quite doesn't help me if I can't figure at least more out, and if it is even certain. I might have gone a little too far, anyhow I have to finish homework, but will follow the thread if someone comes up with something more logical.
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I find it quite odd that on the website version, you can type in letters into the console
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#19 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 12:09:33 AM(UTC)
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someone fetch dr halsey!
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#21 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 1:18:51 AM(UTC)
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Okay if we are to say that each glyph represents a number or letter, then starting with the first terminal first letter, assign that the letter A, then the next new glyph B, the next new C and so on until you have all glyphs labeled with a representative letter.

I already did that and got this string of letters to correspond with the glyphs:

abacdefghbdifjklghhmnfjoemnphqjrqcdfjjfsetpfqefunq

So now if someone can decipher this string of 50 letters to their actual letter/number designation, then we should have the code cracked.

This string represents all 50 characters used in the ten terminals in sequence from Pillar of Autumn to the Maw.
#22 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 1:25:32 AM(UTC)
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I was thinking there may be a clue in the strings of numbers that precede each terminal. For reference, i'll include them here.

044657.04.21.21.34.56
000003.09.12.06.54
100002.09.19.21.33.01
044657.04.21.21.34.56
044657.04.23.01.17.22
044657.04.23.01.17.22
89875.11.11.15.41.13
051207.06.07.06.11.02
044657.04.21.21.34.56
100002.09.22.09.38.17
100002.09.22.28.63.55

I've included the 11th terminal's number sequence just in case it has relevance. The first inclination many have is that these are a time stamp, which is a reasonable first conclusion until you look deeper. First of all, several of the sequences are identical. The 1st, 4th and 9th are identical to each other, as are the 5th and 6th. Also, the 6th terminal gives us a specific date, 60,000 years after the firing of the Halo array, and it's first sequence of six digits, presumably the year if it were a time stamp, falls 15,000 years short.

Also note that two of the sequences have a non standard format. The second terminal, instead of having six digits followed by five strings of two numbers only has four strings of two, and the seventh terminal's first string is only five digits, not the standard six.

On a whim, I tried combining the 5th and 6th's runes together, forwards and backwards, into the input screen, with no results.

I can't say for sure that the numbers mean anything, but if 343 is following in Bungie's footsteps as closely as they would have us believe, there's no way these don't have meaning.
#23 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 2:39:07 AM(UTC)
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i cannot remember where but i have seen some symbolism like these in the campaign, scratched onto a wall, think it was either halo or ACTOR, it was in a tunnel system
#24 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 2:56:59 AM(UTC)
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I have been thinking that the symbols from other games could be used as well. I will help you out OP if you want it.

I do think though that you are right, the biggest discovery would be to crack the language. If you want help, just tell me what you want me to do.
#25 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 3:36:02 AM(UTC)
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The hunt is on then ...
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